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Uruguays Ratings Four Levels Below Investment Grade


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03/30/07 22:19
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Uruguays Ratings Four Levels Below Investment Grade

Thank author of this post/commentBloomberg reported today that Uruguay sold $500 million of 20-year, inflation linked peso bonds on the international market.

The bonds were sold by the government to achieve 4.25 percentage points over inflation. However, it doesn't seem that it achieved it's goal as both Moody's Investors Service and Standard & Poor's have put their ratings fourlevels below investment grade even though in September they had raised their ratings.


Comment #1
09/27/08 07:29
Jane

The indexed bonds can be a great investment if you are planning to live in Uruguay long term as they will keep up with the peso inflation and you'll have a stable income regardless of what happens with the U.S. Dollar.

Comment #2
02/20/09 23:16
Henry

The world's monetary systems are very unstable so why not just invest in gold. That is safest place for any investments.

Comment #3
04/02/09 14:31
Rural east Colonia departmento
Thank author of this post/commentI don't invest in gold because its expensive to buy and sell, expensive to store and it doesn't provide me with an income.

Last September I bought a chunk of the UYP index-linked 4.5% bonds as well as some long dates UY government dollar bonds at a price which yields a little over 10% return.

IMV the best way to safeguard yourself in these times of uncertain currencies is to hold a good selection of them... eggs in many baskets.

Patrick.


Comment #4
04/03/09 09:59
Eric

Don't put much faith in the bond rating agencies. Remember, U.S. treasuries are regarded as "risk-free" and a lot of the big U.S. banks (which are insolvent) are still rated AAA. What a scam!

Comment #5
04/12/09 13:44
Rural east Colonia departmento
Thank author of this post/commentSpot on Eric.

I lost what little faith I had in the ratings agencies back in 1990 during a UK recession when I started getting mystery phone calls from US investors asking whether they could buy shares in my little remedial building company. According to Moodies, my firm (with 12 employees and a share capital of 100 GBP) was the soundest company in the entire UK construction sector :-)

Patrick.


Comment #6
08/16/09 18:56
Rural east Colonia departmento
Thank author of this post/commentA short follow-up on ROU 2022 8% U$S bonds...

I bought the bonds for dollar income, paid 75 for each (3/4 of redemption value) yielding a bit over 10%. Looking at prices last week I see that the markets have radically changed their views on them and they are now trading above their redemption value at 108.5.

The rise in value does me little good as I need the income. Most of the more reputable SA bonds have strengthened in line with the ROU.


Comment #7
08/25/09 18:06
Liza

I think that i have to agree with Henry, with gold you assure your money wiht good returns. However, it requires banking and trading skills to excel in this kind of business, not to mention the money involved in the business process.

However, you could try other investing options available in the market. There are lots and lots of options out for grabs nowadays, just be sure make your money safe in investing.


Comment #8
09/19/09 18:29
Olivia

Certainly there are lots of options on investing but it is so hard to make decisions and take risks when money is involved. But as they say, something saved are future wealth.

Regarding investments, i would like to know more on Uruguay rating and investment. What are some important figures and the latest trend.

How high is the chance that investing in Uruguay would bloom. Just trying to orient my self more on the matter. Thanks


Comment #9
09/21/09 09:43
Ireland
Thank author of this post/commentOne thing to keep in mind when looking up "information" about investing in Uruguay...any of the websites for companies that claim to be highly informed and offer an image of Uruguay as some sort of utopia should be read with caution in my opinion!

No country is perfect - yes there are many opportunities for investment in a developing country, but there are problems too. If you're looking to make serious investments who need advisors who tell you the TRUTH, not those who only publish sunshine happy rainbow stories on their websites.

This may not be relevant to gold and stock investments, but certainly for real estate, business investments etc in Uruguay...there is a lot more to consider than just the price!


Comment #10
11/25/09 09:06
Jamie

Agree with Henry. Gold is back and it is solid and real, not paper money that can become value-less overnight. It used to be safe to invest in big bank, but the biggest banks have crumbled right in front of us. Before it would have been safe to say, take your money and put in a bank with a good interest rate and go home and sleep in the assurance that your money is safe. No more! Get a shoe box, put your money inside and put it under your bed. Of course, that doesnīt work either.

Uruguay, since that is the forum, is a solid, well managed country and investiments can be rather safe. You certainly canīt say for all.


Comment #11
12/22/09 10:38
Rural east Colonia departmento
Thank author of this post/comment"Gold as an investment"

I did very well out of gold by selling out during the Iran Hostage Crisis in the final days of Jimmy Carter's presidency. As far as I recall I got nearly 800 U$S/ounce for it. I don't know the current value of 800 U$S in today's money but I reckon it would be many thousands.

Since selling out, I've never been tempted to buy more for several reasons. The ownership of gold provides no income and its quite expensive to buy, sell and store. I have found that well chosen rented property offers a similar protection against inflation with the added advantage of providing an income.

On the other hand I'd be first to agree that running your fingers through a bag of gold coins while uttering "Pieces of Eight" in a piratical accent is great fun :-)


Comment #12
12/23/09 08:03
Thailand
Thank author of this post/comment"Gold as an investment"

Argh! That sounds like great fun Patrick.

Comment #13
12/23/09 12:26
Pocitos
Thank author of this post/comment"Playing with Gold"

I think it would be even MORE FUN to run our hands through Patrick's big pot of gold!!!

Comment #14
12/24/09 18:41
Rural east Colonia departmento
Thank author of this post/comment"Pot of gold"

I swapped the not enormous pot for numbers 57 Surrey Road and Waveney Road, Ipswich. While neither house provides me with piratical amusement, thanks to inflation the monthly rents are now slightly more than the capital cost of buying them :-)


Comment #15
01/08/10 15:23
adam

Investing in gold is a prime thing to do, without a doubt. At this point in time we would need to figure out what the best things to invest out time and money should be, and gold is surely one of them.

Comment #16
02/18/10 14:22
Montreal
Thank author of this post/comment"Investing"

Does Uruguay have a stock market or bourse where stocks are traded? If you have a stock broker or a borkerage firm in Uruguay, can they also do buys and sells on the Argentinian and Brazilian markets?

Comment #17
02/19/10 06:59
Ireland
Thank author of this post/comment"Argentina's stock market"

Invest in Argentina? Are you crazy?!

Comment #18
02/19/10 07:03
Pocitos
Thank author of this post/comment"Montevideo Stock Market"

Here is a Spanish page with some of the answers...

Comment #19
02/19/10 10:41
Rural east Colonia departmento
Thank author of this post/comment"Broker"

And here is the email address of Diego Rodriguez (an English speaking broker)

diegorod@ gbengochea.com.uy (refill the gap)

A link to his companies website is below.


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