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Forum Post
03/29/07 06:33
Pocitos

Cost of Living

Thank author of this post/commentThe Uruguay Dreaming blog has a nice commentary on the cost of living in Uruguay. These are things he says are cheaper:

Inexpensive (anywhere between 25 and 80% of USAP)

Restaurants

Produce, locally grown fruits and vegetables

Bread and baked goods

Beer, table wine

Meat

Transportation

Real estate

Health care

Education

Services in general

Although I find health care much cheaper. I pay US$50/mon my business in USA pays $800+/mo per employee!

Transportation (not including your own car).

His expensive list:

Expensive (anywhere between 120 and 200% of USAP)

Exotic foods i.e. any food not typically consumed by Uruguayans. For example: peanut butter, orange juice, cereal, some chips and snacks

Convenience products - paper products, zip-lock bags, plastic wrap

Clothing, shoes of similar quality

Electricity

Telephone, internet

Appliances, video games, electro-electronics in general

Pots and pans, kitchen gadgets of similar quality

Daily Newspaper

Foreign language books and magazines

Eye glasses, contact lenses

Orange juice is probably expensive, though at Disco and Tienda Inglesia it is fresh squeezed (and not like in the USA where it is "fresh squeezed" in factory and you get it a week old in the store). At Disc you see it fresh squeezed in the store. At Tienda Inglesia they have nice selection of fresh squeezed juices in plastic "pop" bottles always with lots of pulp. Grape, Apple, Orange, Grapefruit (sometimes), Strawberry/Orange (50%/50%).

Electricty. We pay 1, 000-1, 400 pesos/mo for living.. hot water, 2-3+ computers, etc. US$40-$60. I don't find that expensive. However compared to local wages it is.

Telephone. Our local line is always under US$10. If talk much you'll pay more than then it becomes expensive. I never had a line in the USA for $10.

Newspapers, books and manazines... who uses those paper products when you have the internet?

Internet? Maybe yes. Maybe no. ADSL in Uruguay has low upload speeds, ie: 1500k down, 192k up. However, Verizon offers 1500k down, 128k up. I had a Dedicado circuit of 384k up/down. That would be impossible to get in many places in the USA as a consumer (cheap) service. I have a new Dedicado connection that is 1024k down and I haven't checked the upload speed yet.

I missed "maids" on the list which is much less expensive and more common here.

He has .xls file you can download to play with for a budget. From here you can get the idea of property taxes. For a US$110, 000 property he sets the property tax budget at US$32/mo or US$384/yr.


Comment #1
03/29/07 20:19
Piriapolis & Savannah, Ga
Thank author of this post/commentLee-

One of the soft variables for cost of living in UY is financing.

For instance, real estate is a relative bargain. However, there are no real estate loans for all practical purposes. Same, same for cars. IF the cost of capital, is factored in, the picture changes. This is called Opportunity Cost.

Steve Bowman

Editor, Coastal Uruguay


Comment #2
04/09/07 22:25
Canada, Earth
Thank author of this post/commentActually those prices don't sound too bad. In most cases they are much much cheaper than here in Canada. My telephone bill, without long distance, is normally around $50. a month and with dsl and long distance runs over $100 a month. So a telephone for $10 is extremely good. The savings would more than cover the cost of internet I'm sure.

I love the sound of the fresh squeezed juices. Yum.


Comment #3
10/15/08 08:36
Corry

I live in Oregon and my cell phone bill is around $55 a month. I have Unlimited Local and Long Distance. I have unlimited text and multimedia messaging. I also have unlimited internet.

Comment #4
12/15/08 12:07
Dustin

wow.. thats a good company to go through..

Comment #5
02/26/09 22:09
Fitz fitsch

I've visited the link you have posted on Uruguay dreaming and it said that the website is suspended. Maybe next time you can provide a more reliable or correct url link.

Comment #6
08/09/09 09:09
Sholie

Live in Uruguay

Living in Uruguay allows you to enjoy a higher quality of life with a sharply reduced price tag. From its old-world theaters and opera houses to its jazz festivals and exquisite restaurants, Uruguay looks and feels like Europe, but the cost of living is more like the Third World. But while the prices are low, the infrastructure is first rate. You can drink the water from any tap in the country. Telephone lines are available in less than 48 hours, and your high-speed Internet connection is just a phone call away in most cities. The truth is that Uruguay is one of the most diverse, affordable, and sophisticated countries in the region.


Comment #7
08/10/09 07:02
Pocitos
Thank author of this post/commentWhy do you copy nonsense from International Living?

If you are going to say "Uruguay looks and feels like Europe, but the cost of living is more like the Third World." Give us some examples of those costs.. from 2009.


Comment #8
08/10/09 13:43
Eric

Good point Lee. Also, is high speed internet really available in most cities? This seems contradictory to what I've heard elsewhere.

Comment #9
08/10/09 19:56
Pocitos
Thank author of this post/commentI can only speak for Montevideo and find it easily available and reliable. Outside the city someone else will need to comment.

Comment #10
08/13/09 10:21
moy

Yeah, an index of an updated cost of living would appropriate. It would be pointless to base your ideas upon information that is outdated.

Unlimited internet access will be suitable in the event that the speed is really fast.

The online blogs can be a bit misleading in case people are not speaking from experience. To know more about a place, you will need to get first hand info


Comment #11
08/30/09 06:58
pale_o

Well, $55 dollars is such a wonderful bargain. The cost of living in Uruguay then seems to be one to consider.

That is a good point Lee; having to speak from what you know and not heresay.

My guess is that given settling in Montevideo is reliable and easy, it should not be any harder for other locations. Discrepancies might be there but they should not that hard to deal with


Comment #12
08/31/09 07:49
Rural east Colonia departmento
Thank author of this post/commentI wouldn't say that the cost of living is particularly low in the ROU. Its much lower than the UK but higher than in Thailand. As a person with foreign-sourced income, the exchange rate is the greatest variable. When I first arrived there were 49 $UY to 1 GBP but now there are only 35.

The two of us live well on 1700 U$S/month here in rural Colonia but that figure excludes foreign travel. No doubt I'd spend more if I lived in MVD as there are many more things available to spend money on. Down here I'm not tempted to buy myself extra wheel barrows or splurge money on impulse-buying extra ant poison :-)


Comment #13
08/31/09 08:13
Ireland
Thank author of this post/commenthaha...nothing like an expensive wheel-barrow addiction to empty your bank account ;)

**Just a quick note to comment #5, Uruguay Dreaming was a pretty helpful blog and the link provided was correct at the time but now the blog has unfortunately been suspended, I guess because it wasn't maintained.

As for the cost of living, I totally agree with Patrick, its all relative. If you are considering Uruguay "cheap" on the basis of your current income wherever you are now then factor in if you will still have that income when living here...if so you may consider it "cheap".

However many people have to make their living here in Uruguay and then very few things here could be considered cheap! Clothes are overpriced and in most cases poorly made, fresh food is fairly inexpensive if you buy it from the street markets but I find the supermarkets are overpriced. Electrical goods are WAY overpriced.

In the end it comes down to your style of living...like Patrick said, if you live in Montevideo where there is plenty to see, do and spend money on then you will not be able to survive on the same budget as in rural Colonia.


Comment #14
09/22/09 20:50
Maya

Well here is a list of some basic costs in Uruguay:

Milk (regular, 1 liter) 0.70 $

Loaf of Fresh Bread 2.70 $

Eggs (12) 1.23 $

Cheese (1kg) 6.50 $

Water (1.5 liter bottle) 0.98 $

Bottle of Wine (Mid-Range) 3.00 $

Domestic Beer (0.5 liter bottle) 0.82 $

Imported Beer (0.33 liter bottle) 1.55 $

Pack of Cigarettes (Marlboro) 1.96 $

More figures on the link below.. ciao


Comment #15
09/23/09 05:45
Pocitos
Thank author of this post/commentIf you really want to know the REAL and CURRENT cost or prices of stuff... go to Tienda Inglesa from the comfort of your home anywhere the world and see what something would cost today... not from an outdated website:

Tienda Inglesa is a supermarket and sells lots of electronics and computer stuff too. So you can get the price for eggs or a laptop. You can practice your Spanish at the same time.

At this exact moment the cheapest eggs (Huevo blanco PRODHIN 1/2 docena) seem to be 21 pesos for 6. Or about US$1.95 per dozen. So prices have gone up a lot since May 2009 (when that website purports to have figures from)... so that website it way out of date!

The most expensive eggs (Huevo colorado PRODHIN premium 1 docena) are 52.50 pesos for 12 or about US$2.44.

Eggs are always difficult to find in the Tienda Inglesa store because they are kept in an unrefrigerated section away from dairy, meat, etc.


Comment #16
09/23/09 07:42
Ireland
Thank author of this post/commentalthough maya's posting is helpful it becomes outdated too quickly...prices obviously change and the exchange rate with dollars changes all the time.

The website for Tienda Inglesa supermarket is a good way to check current food prices, but keep in mind that if you are willing to do most of your shopping at the street markets (which is very normal here) then your fresh foods - fruit and vegetables, meat, fish, cheese etc can all be bought at much cheaper prices than in the supermarkets.


Comment #17
09/23/09 22:44
Shirley

Here are online price lists that are updated monthly! Brought to you by the Área Defensa del Consumidor, in the Ministerio de Economía y Finanzas. It covers a basic list of selected products and services. For a given grocery item that is on the list, you can view its prices across different grocery stores or ferias. Or you can pick a store and view the list of prices there. You can even download spreadsheets so you can sort and analyze the numbers further.

It's pretty amazing.


Comment #18
09/24/09 08:31
Ireland
Thank author of this post/commentwow - that page is ridiculously detailed! Shirley how do you find this stuff?!

Comment #19
09/24/09 12:21
Pocitos
Thank author of this post/commentI'm not sure Shirley will want to share all her secrets on finding stuff... but hopefully, she'll share the results a bit more often!

Comment #20
09/25/09 23:50
Rural east Colonia departmento
Thank author of this post/commentWhat an amazing site! Well done Shirley for finding it.

Comment #21
09/26/09 10:07
Shirley

I'm afraid it's just a symptom of spending way too much time online, and clicking a lot. :-) I think I originally ran across the site when it was referenced in a news article in La República or El País, talking about the latest monthly inflation figures. I certainly didn't go looking for such a site; I would never have imagined that they would choose to spend tax dollars on such a project. (THAT'S the truly amazing part....)

Lee: "a bit more often"?? What secrets do you think I'm keeping? (lol) I'm always happy to share whatever I know. And I certainly get it back tenfold from the three of you -- thanks!


Comment #22
10/02/09 21:22
Jen

yeah, you certainly had found a great site Shirley. Thanks for sharing it here in this forum. Anyway, can you please add some more info or more site if possible?

I think Maya have to be cautious on the time being..anyway, updated sites are hard to find. And i have to say that you just have to check on the market your self for the latest price trend, have to agree with that Elaine.


Comment #23
10/07/09 22:01
Ipe

Yes, checking on the current price at the market is the nicest and the surest way to find out what is the latest price trend. But it still depends on the situation, what if your not in that place anyway? Well just read some articles and first hand info from blog reviews that are everywhere in the net.

You can also benefit on forum like this to ask questions with regards to that matter.


Comment #24
10/08/09 06:21
Ireland
Thank author of this post/commentI've written an article about the cost of living and prices in Uruguay for our guide. There is a list of many Uruguayan websites that are updated regularly with current prices.

We have also translated the Spanish documents from the website Shirley provided so that expats who don't know the language yet can get an idea of what they mean.

You'll find all the info here:


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