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Residency Requirement ChangesThis forum post has messages dated from 12/03/10 through 02/20/12, please be sure to read all the messages. If you feel it is old or outdated, please follow up with a question or comment and someone may be able to update it, or reply with newer information if you have it.
| Residency Requirement Changes There seem to be some rumors buzzing around about some possible changes in the residency requirements for Uruguay.First, I think it is important to say that the actual immigration law has not been changed. However, Immigration may be implemented the law a bit differently. The issue relates to whether one must actually live in Uruguay to obtain legal residency. In the past it seemed acceptable to apply for residency and then leave the country until it was granted. Now, some are concerned that they must actually live in Uruguay during the residency process and that immigration may come to their home and check. That would seem to be an involved process when Immigration could simply looked a their records of your entries and exits from the country to see how much time you are spending in Uruguay! That aside, it might be useful if anyone has had an ACTUAL experience with this to share the specifics. There also seems to be some unrealistic ideas about how long the process should take. Recently a lot of people have been talking about the process being one that should take 6 months! For me, it took 22 months. I've spoken with someone who's took 3 years and it used to be people would talk about generally 1 year. In some other countries, like Costa Rica, before you can get legal resident status you have to get a temporary residency which lasts 3 years (with significant requirements of how long you must spend in the country). After your 3 years as a temporary resident you could apply for legal residency. So, Uruguay seems to be quite generous to directly offer legal residency and maybe its not unreasonable for one to actually live in Uruguay? Expert Page: Quick Tips for Getting Settled in Uruguay |
Comment #112/03/10 09:47Rural east Colonia departmento | "Changes or not."
I first applied in November 2007 and got my "certificate of arrival" (which allowed me to apply for a cedula) in August 2008. The DNIC issued me with a provisional cedula and three weeks later I got my permanent cedula. There was one hitch 2 months into the application when a funcionario misread one of the documents and rejected my application but this was solved by persuading the funcionario to re-read the document and by finding four more senior funcionarios to read the document and its written rejection themselves and sign/stamp more documents confirming that the junior funcionario had misread the document in the first place. My SO applied one year after I did, the application took 10 months but on presenting his certificate of arrival to the DNIC, he was given a permanent cedula without first having to have a provisional one like I did. Once our residency applications had been submitted, we each needed a paper from immigration for leaving/re-entering the country in order to avoid getting a new tourist visa which would have nullified the residency applications and required that the process be restarted. Each overseas journey required another immigration chitty. At that time I asked whether there were limits on the time I could spend outside the ROU but the various funcionarios I asked said that there wasn't. That isn't to say that the rules haven't been interpreted differently since then. I've been told by two recent applicants that the monthly income requirement has been increased from 500 U$S to 650 U$S but I haven't checked this out myself. I'm coming up to my first cedula renewal next August and I'm told that I will need more papers from Immigration for the DNIC to issue a new one. I'm planning to visit them once more in March to see what's needed as these things can take time :-) |
| "New viewpoints"
Do you think the new viewpoints their taking is a result of the need for Uruguay to get off the Grey List? I'll be going for the Uruguayan Citizen position with Passport and all that jazz in a bit over two years. I hope they don't put a bunch of stumbling blocks in my path at that time.~P |
Comment #312/04/10 07:55Rural east Colonia departmento | "Uru-nationality"
It was my intention to apply for Uru-citizenship in spite of my neighbours laughing at such a strange idea. However, Lorenzo's new taxes which come into force on Jan 1st are much tougher on Uru-citizens than on Uru-foreign residents so I've decided to remain an Irishman instead. Uru-citizens will suffer world-wide IP (capital taxes) but foreign residents won't.Before Lorenzo introduced his new proposals I thought that my farming neighbours were all Uru-citizens but I now realise that most of them are actually Swiss or Italian by nationality... even though their families have been here for several generations. |
| "Marriage to a Uruguain"
Hi, In about three months I am planning on coming to Uruguay for vacation. I am hoping to "scout" out this country and determine if I want to relocate myself to Uruguay. By relocate, I mean eventually expat there. It seems that the residency process is fairly straight forward, however due to possible issues, getting an expert or lawyer would likely help. This is based upon reading all of the posts so far on this subject. Therefore my question to forum members and those who have relocated to Uruguay, what if I move there, fall in love with some wonderful gal, and want to get married? Do gals from Uruguay like Americans? What about the legal process? Are there any issues in that area? |
| "Marrying for papers?"
"Do gals from Uruguay like Americans?". They better do, we are all "Americans"... hahaha. Expat to be, that depends of the American in particular. Send a photo and we will tell you your approximate chances. Step, by step. Come, and do your papers. You may wait for years to fall in love and get married; the residency process is much more foreseeable, and much less expensive... |
| "Residency Forms"
Can anyone provide me with a website or link for the permanent residency forms? I would like to have them in hand already filled out. I have emailed the UY embassy in San Francisco and Los Angeles (guess where I am from) and they never respond. It's been weeks, so I am not being impatient. Anyway, we will arrive in Uruguay in November. So I have time to locate the necessary forms before hand. Hey thanks, and we are very excited to be traveling at long last to Uruguay. |
| "Residency / Cedula Results"
In terms of gaining residency here: "expect a long ride"! Anyone doing the research will see that on the surface it all looks straight forward. In THEORY it is. In PRACTICE however there's so much margin for error that I will guarantee it wont go to plan. That margin is fundamentally caused by no official process in place 9or adhered to) as well no electronic applicant continuity (so records have no current validity). The system, quite frankly, is in turmoil and needs an up haul. That's not to say it wont happen. The good news is, unlike other Latin American countries the system is not corrupt; so if you respect and be patient and smile a lot, you'll get there. I'm finally in possession of a temporary residence / cedula after lots of queuing, stamping and cash. If I could offer one piece of advice to success from my experience it would "Don't give up! - you'll get there"!. |
Comment #803/25/11 22:55Rural east Colonia departmento | "The Mills of God"
I'd agree with Fred. To make a successful application you have to be in possession of all the appropriate paperwork stamped by the right people and submit them here in person. The process is slow, is useful training for life here and seems to be corruption-free.In my experience, Uru-consuls overseas are usually ill informed about the immigration process and often give out of date advice. On the other hand, their services are essential for stamping the various foreign documents you will need once you get here. Like the Mills of God, the Uru immigration process grinds slow but exceeding fine :-) |
| "Uruguayan American Orientales"
Alberto is right on here! From Tierra del Fuego to Alaska, we're all Americans. It is a mildly nagging insult to most South Americans that their northern cousins presume that the Title 'American' excludes Them. It is likely the result of English Linguistic Imperialism that has created the separation. We would be well advised to remember this sensitivity, me thinks. ...Planet Earth & Pat from Lat(45) - For my the process took 6 months. I had all my stuff ready and Certified by the Consulate. My wife is Uruguayan, but we met in the States. Be sure to have all your ducks in line before you leave the U.S. or wherever you may be coming from. The Consulate in Los Angeles is usually very helpful and professional. They can do much more than the partial office in San Francisco. You'll need a Certificate of Good Conduct (from your local Police or Sheriff), an Original copy of all Birth Certificates, an Original copy of Marriage Certificates, and your original Passport all Verified and Stamped by the Consulate. This process takes weeks because they do check stuff out, and you are better off to call the Consulate and speak to a live person (call during the hours their site recommends). You will need to verify a source of Income as well. Ask them the amount. Save all Certified Consular stamped stuff, you'll need them all when you get here. If you intend to bring a bunch of money down here, please don't listen to the goofy folk who want to hide everything they do. Don't stuff it in your under wear.>) Set up a transfer in advance with your Bank, with your signature(s) already on file for money transfers, and just transfer what you want when you want. As long as you're not hiding income from Taxes, the U.S. doesn't really care. Uruguayan Women are (like women everywhere) available in all temperatures (depending on how you treat them). They will decide whether, or not, you are worthy. If it takes six months to two years for a Cedula (Residency), and it takes at least a year or two to really get to know someone, the choice should be an easy one. Have your stuff ready, but come and check it out. We love this place, but it is not for everyone. It is a small, relaxed, corner of the world with its own distinct culture, that some of the more obsessive among us find unnerving. If you want things 'your way' go to Burger King. If you're ready to be open to other people's solutions to the various dilemma of life come on down and hang out with us. Pat from Lat - If you have those forms and any other the Consulate recommends, the rest falls into place. It isn't all that complicated, and people want to help. A number of people will help you walk through the process for a fee that runs between a few hundred to a thousand dollars. But if you follow the Government's instructions well, you can actually do it yourselves. Learn some Spanish, if you can. People here that do speak English often won't tell you until After you've made an effort to speak Their language. In general they don't cater to non-Spanish speakers, but are happy to help those who reach out. There are plenty of expats here willing to help as well. Three months from now will be in the dead of Winter, which isn't too intense, and resembles that of the Carolinas. November will be toward the end of Spring. Enjoy your trips. ~P |
| "My ignorance ..."
I apologize for my "American" comments. Having traveled around the world, people refer to Americans as people from the USA. Going to Mexico, Panama, and Costa Rica, I never had anyone tell me they were also Americans. Maybe that is just a South American thing?I only meant to refer to what I read on comments here on your board. I read some comments on a post where an "American" wanted to know about gun rights. He was referred to as an American, by those posting on this site. In fact, there were comments about folks suggesting he not bring his American ways with him, and embracing Uruguayan ways. That said, I was not looking for a paper bride, or way to get residency quickly by marrying. Since I am single, the prospect of getting married to a good women is still on the "to-do" list. In some countries American or "Western" men are desired for marriage because they are known for treating women well. While this is mostly an Asian thing, I have heard of it from some of the Slovak, and Scandinavian countries as well. Are Uruguayans then just touchy about how they are referred to? Is any level of ignorance acceptable to Uruapan’s? Is anyone who posts comments about wanting to see your beautiful country worthy of doing so in your minds? Perhaps comments about Americans are a lot like the Pot calling the Kettle Black? I do appreciate the information on getting the Residency Information in proper order. I meant in no way to say it was simple or easy, just that if you followed the rules, things seemed to go fairly well. Take care. |
| "My Apologies to Planet Earth"
, on more levels than one.>) No intent to chastise. My intent was to just point out the sensitivities that do exist in South America. Having lived in Central America for several years, I found that the folk there also feel a light sting by people from the U.S. referring to themselves as 'Americans'. Many though, are polite to the point of not showing their feelings. That said, they also realize how cumbersome it would be to have to say, 'Unitedstatesian' (o: Hence, it is only a mild nag. People here do find Estranjeros different and interesting. In Uruguay as a European descent type you won't stand out though. In fact, people will constantly ask you for directions. Have fun. Enjoy their ways. And you'll do fine. ~P |
| "No Worries"
It looks like I might be visiting sooner than I expected. I am wondering if anyone knows the process for proving income. I am self employed, and under contract to work remotely for a US corporation. The contract gets renewed every 3-6 months. So can I use my contract (pay check stubs) to prove income? |
| "Leaving Uruguay whilst processing residency"
To answer Glen's question, I have had recent experience with this. What happened in my case was that once you begin the process of residency by presenting yourself and your passport at the police station they will give mark your passport immigration entry with "Inicio: ". Between this date and the date you are issued a cedular you are permitted to leave the country, but you must first complete a form at the police station (one copy for them, the other for you), so that the authoroties know the dates you leave and arrive. I was never informed of any restrictions in terms how long I would be out of the country, but I think this to prevent people from remotely processing residency. It costs I think about $20 US dollars each time you travel. Your copy stays with your passport and is stamped on leaving and returning to Uruguay. Once you have the cedula you no longer need to inform the police when you are leaving Uruguay. Hope this helps. |
| "A bit more to add"
..Sorry I meant to add that you need to hang on to the white paper with your passport while you are out of the country. When you return immigration date stamps and collects to forward it to the department processing your case for residency. |
| "I made it here, meet you all on Sunday?"
Hi, I am not sure ho many folks turn out for the Sunday weekely event, but I am going to do my best to be there. Looking forward to making new friends. |
| "Could be..."
Could be anywhere from 10 to 50... never know who or how many till it happens. That is a big part of the fun! Always new people to meet and learn about their experiences in Uruguay, the world and life.Expert Page: Quick Tips for Getting Settled in Uruguay |
| "Rental advice"
Dear all, I wish to come to Uruguay in April with my son who is 20 yrs old. Please guide me to find a good priced warm apartment or house to rent in Montevideo in a quiet cheaper area. I am confused looking online and seeing the high price. I will like a 6 months renewable contract. Any good agent can be of help also. Thanks Savitri |
| "Rentals and Resdiency"
This post is really about residency... it would be best to start a new one about rentals... but I'm not sure why you are "confused about seeing the high price". What price did you expect to see?Click on my link "Quick Tips for Getting Settled in Uruguay" and it gives some resources for seeing current prices of some things, rentals, real estate, electronics, grocery items. Of course those pages aren't the final word, but they will get you into a realistic ball park. Most of the rentals shown there are annual, and you would have to ask about 6 month contract. Remember to plan on a 5 month security deposit for a rental. Possibly less for a 6 month rental, but there is no guarantee. Your second part about "warm" can be very difficult to answer from reading ads. Your best bet will be an apartment, not a house. And, an apartment with "central losa" (ie: central, hot water pipped through the floors). Usually those with "individual losa" means they have electric wires in the floors, which is likely to be quite expensive when combined with "winter" and "warm". Expert Page: Quick Tips for Getting Settled in Uruguay |
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