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moving to Uruguay
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| moving to UruguayHello everybody.Iam from Romania and i am interesting to move in Uruguay.i would like to know how dificult is to find a job in Hotel Industry? I have a bachelor degree in restaurant management.Hablo espaniol tambien.There are any romanian expat in Uruguay? |
|  Romania-I'm not sure about your industry, but in general, UY is not the land of opportunity for those seeking work, nor is the pay good. Your good Spanish is invaluable, but it won't change the above. For those coming to UY, bring your job with you or have an international business that can be conducted mostly by phone/internet. Steve |
| Thank you for answer, but i am not looking for a carrear or to become rich, just a normal living.is so dificult? |
| There may be some other difficulties for you to conquer first. Do you need a visa to visit from Romania? Secondly, to stay, for residency you need to show you have income to support yourself (about US$500/month). Although this might be from an Uruguay company, I doubt most employees of a hotel make that much. How much it costs to live here is a big question. Most Americans will talk about a couple thousand dollars a month. Most Uruguayan may receive a couple hundred dollars a month. That GAP is bridged by family members living together, lower cost (quality) houses, homes that are inherented, etc. |
| The one advantage you may have in coming here is your English. If it's passable, it does give you an edge if you apply for hotels here that cater to non South Americans... My daughter has never worked a day in her life, last year she was 19, and when she applied at the Sheraton, they were genuinely interested in her going through the application process. Punta has hotels like that too, but it's more seasonal, with the exception of the Conrad. I'm a big fan of positive attitude and genuine enthusiasm. If you're honestly interested, search the net for international hotels here and email them your resume. You may be surprised. A lot of these opportunities are pure chance.. being in the right place at the right time. |
| I think most working locally and living on their locally earned wages find living to be difficult... but they have little debt... so unlike American's that earn much more and have nothing at the end of the month except past due debt... the Uruguayans have nothing at the end of the month... including the lack of fretting over any debts! |
| It all depends on the strategies you wish to lay before you move to Uruguay. It means that whatever challenges you will encounter(and it is no doubt that you cannot escape these)there will be a way through you. I presume that you have what it takes to take the hotel industry in Uruguay to greater heights. It would not suit you to particularly confine yourself to being employed. Try entrepreneurship. |
| Thanks to Nara. I couldn't stop laughing after reading your comment. Your one simple sentence describe whole nature of American life. Being sick and tire of corruption, inefficiency, nepotism, economic deprivation, totalitarian politics, lack of opportunity, etc., I left where I was born for America 30 years ago. What a great country it is! But I'm thinking about leaving America to somewhere in S America. Because I am not in control of my life now here. Now I miss all the inefficient but humble and easy going life of 'manana' attitude. The country I left is now like America. Industrialized, democracy, clean government and one of the top richest in the world. Absolutely it is not a place to live for the way I want to live now. Nothing is free and perfect. Once Uruguay becomes being developed like America you won't be able to enjoy the life like now. Take the advantage of that while you can. Those inefficiencfy is the price you pay for that now. |
Comment #808/11/09 19:04Rural east Colonia departmento | Right on Wanna-be-expat!!! In my humble opinion Uruguay is like it is BECAUSE of the appalling bureaucracy, the difficulties involved in starting a business, the general dislike of anyone who succeeds financially and the extremely slow pace of most things. To quote William Henry Davies... A poor life this if, full of care, We have no time to stand and stare. Its something we have in abundance. |
| True wanna-be-expat...when people believe that being in the comfort zone means that life will sail smoothly from then on, they have a change of heart and total disregard for the past life. But reading your and Patrick's posts left me confused. In other words, is Uruguay good the way it is until industrialization becomes the talk of the day? Uruguayans had better shade some light. Bureaucracy is good but not when it hinders the flow of services. |
Comment #1008/13/09 18:14Rural east Colonia departmento | If it wasn't for the numerous bureaucratic minefields and the old-style socialist view that a successful business man is a wicked capitalist exploiter, the ROU would probably have a vibrant modern economy and all the problems that go with it. Young Orientales with get-up-and-go frequently do just that. I do English conversation practice sessions at several local schools and am sad to report that most of the go-getting brighter kids see their futures elsewhere. |
| Yeah, the whole bureaucracy talk is boring. Old-style politics is as well a hindrance to positive and often rewarding policies. It seems there is a war between capitalism and socialism in Uruguay. Even in my most countries, capitalism is viewed as alien. It will take the young generation to perhaps change that. They are the folks that have flexible ways of seeing things. What have the young Uruguayans to say about their futures? |
| I get a general sense of either a) I am getting out of here whenever I can OR b) resignation, "I can't do anything about it, thats just the way things are" Uruguay's social and economic classes seem pretty deeply entrenched, without the prospect of being able to work your way up it is surprisingly easy to live a life of resignation here. |
| Well, strong point Elaine..when things do not seem to work the way we want them to, then it is better to sit back and watch but as a last resort. Social and economic classes exist almost everywhere in the planet and as you say, it is very easy to feel at the 'comfort zone' and hope things get to look up eventually. It is that state I like to call, 'giving up subconsciously' |
| Bureaucracy in Uruguay is a cancer, but unfortunately most people do not perceive it this way at all. Also, a very large percentage of the population still sees the huge role the state plays in the economy as benign, even though there is plenty of proof to show that state monopolies have been nothing but hurtful to Uruguay. Uruguayans have been actively debating about these issues for years, but the side that promotes more government intervention in the economy always seems to wins. It's weird to witness how people constantly complain about UTE and ANTEL fees or the lack of good public health care while they seem unwilling or unable to make the connection between these and state monopolies, mismanagement and even corruption. |
| I would love to go to the wonderful country of Uruguay, but more so I would love to meet certain people that are based out in Uruguay as I have learnt quite much about the country in the past few months and would truly be more than just tickled by the idea of being able to visit and see the, oh so very beautiful place with my very own eyes. |
| Come on down so Eve...spring time is beautiful in Montevideo and summer along the eastern coast is even better! Are you just coming for a holiday or are you considering a move here? |
| Hello fellow forum goers and Uruguay enthusiasts. Can you help me decide on where in Uruguay should I move. I am planning to move there to have a change of environment and probably career. Like everybody else I was fascinated by the scenic images I found in the internet and social networking sites of people from Uruguay. The question therefore is where is the best place suitable for me. A simple life near the beach or having a small farm is my thing. Easy access to roads is definitely a must. Thanks for the response. |
Comment #1810/25/09 23:27Rural east Colonia departmento | "Whereabouts?"
I reckon the best person to answer that is you :-)We're not short of farmland and beaches (sea, river and lakes) are in plentiful supply. I'd strongly advise you to do an exploritory tour by rental car or by bus and judge for yourself. |
| You can enjoy Uruguay all year round, here are some must see when you are there already: 1.) Punta del Diablo: Find a quiet escape from the busy city in this tranquil part of Uruguay. Walk in miles of empty beach coastlines, surf and fish till you drop, and enjoy wooden cabins and trouble-free rural lifestyle. Learn from people whose lives are as nature-oriented and as down-to-earth as the peaceful surrounding. 2.) Punta del Este: Punta del Este is known world-wide as a plush resort with miles of beaches, a string of luxurious hotels and restaurants and never-ending reasons to party. While it's not as famous as its European and American counterparts, its untamed charm and stunning beauty makes people come every summer. Strut your winning figure in its beaches by engaging in its beach activities or partying in its all-night discos. More on the link below. |
| Why do people love the idea of retiring in Uruguay? From ninth position in International Living's Global Retirement Index last year to fourth place this year, Uruguay has a lot to offer those who decide to retire in Uruguay. Whether you dream of a newly restored colonial home with modern interiors and a view of the harbor…a small cottage with a quiet internal courtyard…or a lazy beachfront retreat where you can sit on your balcony and watch the waves crash up on the sand…you can find it in Uruguay. Read more on the link below. |
| "BULLSHIT WARNING"
I think it has been gently suggested many times, but I'm Irish so I'm not going to beat about the bush anymore. I am not necessarily picking on International Living, but ANY of these websites or companies promoting travel, retirement packages, investment opportunities etc are SELLING something. It is ADVERTISING. WARNING - THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY WHOLLY TRUTHFUL STATEMENTS! In fact some of their claims border downright lies. "In fact, Mercer HR Consulting recently named Montevideo the second least expensive city in the world". I'd like to meet this individual from Mercer Consulting and ask them how on earth they plucked this completely untrue "fact" out of the pretty blue sky! Here are some truths about Uruguay: - COST: Uruguay IS NOT CHEAP. It may not be Tokyo, London or New York prices - but it doesn't offer the cosmopolitan lifestyle and standard of service in those cities so why would the prices be the same. Apples and oranges people! If you have a reliable income and are looking for somewhere to retire with an average comfortable lifestyle you can live in Uruguay. - LISTS & RANKINGS: Numbers are just that - numbers. Statistics can be measure and manipulated very easily to show the things you want to show. Remember that. If you are a naive person than Uruguay is not the place for you (in fact I'd be as bold as to say South America in general is not the place for you!) - "PERFECT" RETIREMENT SPOTS: These do not exist in the generic sense. There is no one place that pleases everyone, and the places that are sold in such a manner you should be wary of. Uruguay has many advantages for retirees (read around the forum or ask specific questions if you want to know more) but it is NOT a "perfect" country (whatever that is!). There are problems - it is a developing country, be aware of that before you come or you will inevitably be disappointed. All I'm saying is take these rankings and claims of perfection with a pinch of salt. Neverland doesn't exist, but you can make your own if you are a flexible individual willing to take the good with the bad. |
Comment #2211/06/09 17:25Rural east Colonia departmento | "You're right."
Selling dreams is their business.Today I heard that some USA-ian neighbours of mine are planning to sell up and return to the US soon. Their container only arrived here last month, they've bought a beach house, 2 cars etc and now they'll be selling up/moving again at great cost. :-( Uruguay is not for everybody. I love it but I'm not exactly a main stream individual and I can fully understand why the place can drive many people to the brink of insanity. I cannot stress too strongly the importance of visiting the ROU and staying here for as long as you possibly can before committing yourselves to a permanent move. |
| You are an Irish that is why you think its bull. Yes, Uruguay is a developing country, so does that already makes them imperfect? Anyway, is there any perfect place? I think it is rude to write bad things on a certain country, whatever it is it is wrong for me. I know you are saying some facts on this matter, however, what i do not like is the part that you throw them so rudely and harshly. |
| "too harsh?"
Hello Jodi, I'm not sure it has much to do with being Irish, there are Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Dutch, Australians, French and more living here in Uruguay that agree with me. Uruguayans agree too - there are pros and cons to all countries, ignoring the cons is naive and foolish. We all like Uruguay, we are not insulting the country (why would we live here if we didn't like it?!). I wrote that post to explain to people looking for the "perfect" retirement spot that this country is not Utopia, best to know that before moving everything and the kitchen sink! How long have you been living here? Do you like it? Where in the world are you from? |
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