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| Relative quality of public schools Does anyone have any experience with the public school system? Would you say that they're generally better or worse than the US public school system?By this, I mean quality of education. I don't care so much about a fancy new building or the newest computers. |
| "Comparisons"
I think it would be better to ask what Uruguay schools have to offer rather than a comparison. That would make it a lot easier, especially for Uruguayans with school age children to answer.About computers. All school age kids in Uruguay have been given a wifi based laptop. So computer literacy should be more developed here across all economic spectrum. If you didn't notice, I get agitated when people want to compare Uruguay to someplace else. Uruguay is not someplace else, and you will like living here based on the merits vs the disadvantages of HERE. Forget about the USA and start your adventure. Expert Page: Quick Tips for Getting Settled in Uruguay |
| "Quality of education."
There's a big discussion in the Uruguayan society and political system these days about the quality of our educational system, inspite some recent changes like the One Laptop Per Child named by Glen. It use to be very good. When I was a child, public schools and high schools were at least as good, and frequently better than private schools. Only parents wanting a religiuous education for their children, or a second language program, send them to private schools. Today, private schools are generally considered better. Especially for secondary school. Also, in some neighbourhoods of Montevideo the quality of education in public schools is strongly influenced by the social environment. |
| "Uruguay Schools"
If you are making a transition to Uruguay and your children have only one year remaining, you might consider the American School. You are less likely to have culture shock in the transition. |
| Hi there. I have been thinking of finding out more about the education in Uruguay. I have two kids that I need to send to school once I get in there and so learning more about the different matters in this country specially the education has been my concern. It would be a lot of help to hear from all of you guys. Thanks a lot and have a great day ahead to all. |
| Hi there! I think that you have a point there, Glen. I agree to that. Uruguay is a unique place which has its own culture and tradition. It also has its own educational systems and they have the right to implement their own rules and regulations on this. With regard to the education, I would say that there are good schools in Uruguay. They have competent teachers as well. |
| "Education in Uruguay "
Primary education in Uruguay was free and compulsory; it encompassed six years of instruction.The quality of education in Uruguay is rated as high. Teaching is a socially respected profession and one that paid relatively well. Most teachers, trained in teachers training colleges, were deemed well qualified. |
| "alternatives for public school"
Try K12 virtual school- My daughter went thru there. My 6 yr old will be going to St. Claire's when we get there. The private school is pricey, but we want him to go into the IB program so that he has the choice of going onto college. |
| "Music Conservatory?"
Does Uruguay have a music conservatory, or a music school through one of their colleges? I've looked and am not finding one! Help! |
| "Music Conservatory?"
Escuela Universitaria de Música: www.eumus.edu.uy or mail to eum@eumus.edu.uy |
| "Public schools/Libraries/Violin Teachers"
We have 3 children (2, 5, and 8) and are researching Costa Rica, Uruguay, and Chile as our next destination. Currently, we live in Thailand. Although the people are wonderful here; the heat, traffic, and pollution have become too much for us.I wanted to ask about the public schools in the capital. Are the schools admission policy based on geographical boundaries? If so, which areas are desirable? How to they handle non-speaking Spanish students? My kids are bilingual so they should pick up Spanish within a year. My wife and I are trying to find an area that has parks nearby and where kids play after school and on weekends. Unfortunately in Thailand because of the tropical heat kids don't go to parks but to malls and additional after school programs. :( |
| "Libraries/Violin Teacher continued"
Sorry, I didn't finish. Libraries. Do they have a lot of English children's books? Do they have good libraries? Are books expensive there? Violin teacher. We need to find a violin teacher for our daughter. Are they expensive and difficult to find? Thanks so much. Tim |
| "Sawadee krup khun Tim"
There are three of us now on the forum with Thai connections. My wife is Thai and I have been living in Thailand for the better part of 12 years. I was bitten by the South American bug and after discovering this forum became intensely interested in Uruguay. We made our first trip there last May. Unfortunately we were unable to stay long enough to learn about books and libraries, let alone violin instructors. Actually I did meet a violin teacher while in Buenos Aires and I imagine you will have no problem finding one. I agree with you about the heat, traffic and pollution in the Land of Smiles. It is also far too crowded.Have you visited the Uruguay Consulate in BKK? It is a satellite of the Consulate in Kuala Lumpur. No one speaks Spanish there and information regarding Uruguay was in short supply when I last visited. Bob |
| "Hi Bob"
Sawadii Krap!What a small world. Are you in Bangkok? If so, I would love to call you and get any information about your trip to Uruguay. I have been doing some research and I have narrowed the choices down to 3 countries - Costa Rica , Chile, and Uruguay. I have been to Costa Rica before and its closeness to the States is one positive. However, it is a tropical country. A good friend of mine who is from Chile now working as an engineer in Arizona tells me that Chile is very expensive now, especially with the low exchange rate of the dollar.He says that after the free trade agreement between Chile and the US that everything is expensive. He was recommending Argentina, especially the wine country of Mendoza. Bob do you have any kids? Drop me an email with your phone number. I was going to make a call on the consulate in Bangkok. I guess I will give it a miss now. Look forward to speaking to you. Tim |
| "Schools, libraries, climate and more..."
Uruguay will perfectly fit your requirements in terms of climate, ambiance (parks, beaches), not too much traffic, low pollution, and extremely low "crowdyness". Children are assigned to public schools according to geographical boundaries; so for a school with better social environment within the school you should live in a neighbourhood with good social environment. When you said your children are bilingual, do you mean they speak English and Spanish? Or is it English and Thai? If they don't speak Spanish I guess they will do better if they start at a bilingual (private) school. At least for 1-2 years. There are libraries. Not very common used these days by children... Nice your children require them. I guess ebooks will be the norm in the future, and hopefully that takes children back to reading more! In Uruguayan public schools, each child is given a free personal XO laptop, so the next generation will be used to reading in a computer screen. I guess Violin teachers won't be a problem either.But... there's always a "but"... Uruguay is not a cheap country too. However, take into account that some things concerning a family with children like education or health, will probably be cheaper than at the States. I cannot compare with Thailand, though. |
| "Costs and Expenses"
I agree that it is expensive in Uruguay, but I was not there long enough to compare it with other areas. Of course it is much more expensive than Thailand even with the strong baht and weak dollar, but is it more expensive than Los Angeles? I don't know. One thing that might be a deal breaker for me is the 22% VAT. That really raises the cost of things. I would definitely bail on it if the UY government began taxing citizens on their worldwide income. |
| "Cost Of Living Comparisons"
How about this to help you see the cost of living comparisons? |
| "IVA (or VAT) in Uruguay"
Also, the IVA (the VAT) is already factored into almost every product/service price in Uruguay. So, the price advertised usually includes the IVA. |
| "Prices"
According to that website...Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre 465.89 $ Apartment (1 bedroom) Outside of Centre 316.88 $ I think that will give people some really unrealistic ideas of the cost of living in Montevideo. Even for unfurnished apartments I think those figures are completely unrelated to reality. Plus, I think generally, 'City Centre' (ie: Centro) would be cheaper that outside 'City Centre' (ie: Pocitos/Punta Carettas, etc). But even reversed the figures don't compute. Expert Page: Quick Tips for Getting Settled in Uruguay |
| "Cost of living "
It is starting to look as if the prices are a bit high in Uruguay. We don't want to spend more than $2500 per month and it looks like it would be difficult with 3 young children. |
| "Based on?"
I would tend to agree, especially compared to my impression of the costs of living in Thailand. However, what are you basing that on?"cost of living" pages that abound on the Internet, or your actual experiences? For cost of apartments and food check out Tienda Inglesa website and buscandocasa.com for consumer electronics and appliances: www.copacabana.com.uy Expert Page: Quick Tips for Getting Settled in Uruguay |
| "Cost of living "
Do you disagree? I sincerely hope that I am wrong!The major expenses for us would be rent, food, transportation, and entertainment/classes. The entertainment for us would be attending music venue (classical, dance, etc) every now and again. The classes would be Spanish, violin lessons, and maybe an art class or so. We tend to eat mostly at home and when we do go out, we eat at lower price venues, mainly because we have a 2 year old. We had in mind to hire a private tutor in Spanish for us. I speak a little high school Spanish but the rest of my family doesn't speak...nada. We don't smoke but I do enjoy a glass of wine now and again. We don't watch t.v., play video games, or use a stereo. We will need an internet fast enough to stream music and do our kids' math and phonics programs online. We tend to lead quiet and unexciting lives. Our biggest vice, if we had one, would be books. I must admit that Uruguay appealed to us because it seemed to be quiet and less-hurried in comparison to her neighbors. This has been our impression. You are correct. I am using online searches to determine the cost of living. We tend to be more frugal than most other people so I guess it would be rather difficult to get an accurate picture. Thank you Glen. I do appreciate your assistance. Of course, Thailand is cheaper but we are not looking for a place to match or beat; only a place that we can afford and live comfortably and a better quality of life. |
Comment #2209/16/11 13:04Rural east Colonia departmento | "Cost of living"
The ROU is a country which is prone to booms and busts... history shows that its not unusual to find us booming when the north is in bust mode and vice versa.When I first came here in 2005 the place seemed incredibly cheap compared to Europe but with the peso doubling in value against the pound sterling since then as well as domestic inflation of between 6% and 9%, the situation has now reversed itself. No doubt it will reverse itself once more when the north recovers and agricultural commodity prices fall. In my view, for a cheap cost of living you might consider Colorado in the USA rather than Colonia in the ROU :-) Many of my farming neighbours have been using their windfall incomes to buy themselves nice holiday homes in the USA (mostly in Florida) which well illustrates the current state of play. I think you might well be struggling on 2.5k U$S a month if you are having to pay MVD rentals, charges and property taxes. The two of us live well on that level of expenditure (excluding overseas trips) but we aren't having to find money for rent and being small farmers, we are exempted from property taxes. |
| "2.5K US dollars."
I would say you won't be able to rent for less than US $ 800/month (for an apartment with sufficient space for a 5-people family in an acceptable neighbourhood). That let you 1.6K US dollars. With that, you can "manage", but your budget would be really, really tight. Many families in Uruguay can live with that, but I think there are other places cheaper than Uruguay for you. Wait a couple of months and you will probrably be able to buy a greek island! |
Comment #2409/16/11 20:43Rural east Colonia departmento | "Carpet bagging opportunities"
"Wait a couple of months and you will probrably be able to buy a greek island! "You might even get a 2 for 1 offer :-) |
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